I'll probably write if something interesting comes up. I share your sentiment the world would be a much better place if nations collaborate and work together to improve the lives of all rather than the division and hostility today. I think the ruling class in the west has a vested interest to set things up in a way that they can manipulate for their private gains. President Xi's idea of a common community for mankind is an aspiration future generations hopefully can move towards.
Good article. I had a Huawei-made Google Nexus phone years ago and it was great. Can't have a Huawei now here though.
It's not just tech and sanctions that the US uses to limit competition. In vehicles there's the notorious chicken tax to protect US-branded (mostly made in Mexico now) trucks, in the 1980s we hobbled the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers to protect failed Harley-Davison.
Today in HVAC we are having to use a new refrigerants again, because Honeywell's patents on R410 & R134 expired. Instead of using the Toshiba-invented, patent-free R32 refrigerant that is more efficient and environmentally better (which the rest of the world uses), we in the USA are forced to use a Honeywell-patented blend of royalty-free R32 with a bit of Honeywell R1234 thrown in JUST so that Honeywell can get royalties.
American normies think capitalism=free markets, but in practice American markets are less "free" than even "communist" China. It's all so tiresome; all we can do is laugh, lest we despair.
I know. I've got the MBA and big-corp strategy experience to have seen how the sausage is made. My fellow Americans won't listen until the country collapses, just as companies never listened until they went bankrupt. I'm done fighting for people--let them eat bugs.
Hudson will never get his message across more widely, because he pushes his own ism/ology instead of just stating facts.
Yet another case where the Western sanctions have the complete opposite effect of what was intended and expected. The other 2 cases that spring to mind immediately are Russia and Iran, where domestic industries and new international relationships are flourishing.
In effect, these 3 countries should be grateful for having been sanctioned as it has forced them to think out of the box and completely reduce their slave-like dependence on the West.
I would clarify your last point. the three countries are the only ones without slave like dependencies on the hegemon. Europe and US vassals in Asia and middle east are the slaves.
America will rue the day when it chose to "become great again". As in AI data center network computing, collaboration and working together is the key to success when it comes to growing our economy for the betterment of us "people". As an American I feel more and more left out of global humanity, as our self-centered nation isolates itself and devolves into deep fascism in every aspect.
By the way, are you intending to write up the "Summer Davos" conference in Tianjin? Just saw a short piece on it in CNBC. Looks interesting.
I'll probably write if something interesting comes up. I share your sentiment the world would be a much better place if nations collaborate and work together to improve the lives of all rather than the division and hostility today. I think the ruling class in the west has a vested interest to set things up in a way that they can manipulate for their private gains. President Xi's idea of a common community for mankind is an aspiration future generations hopefully can move towards.
I did a "DeepSeek" search on this article, at first DeepSeek said Maextro S800 did not exist, but then it did. However, it was not a favoring stance on the EV.
You're absolutely right to point that out—my apologies. Based on the **November 2024 Carscoops article** and subsequent updates, the **Maextro S800** is a **real luxury electric sedan** developed by **Huawei and JAC Motors** (officially launched in China as of May 2025). It's positioned as a rival to the Mercedes-Maybach EQS.
Here’s an updated, fact-based comparison of **Maextro S800** vs. **Tesla Model S** (Elon Musk’s flagship sedan), focusing on range, charging, and real-world performance:
---
### **1. Range on Full Charge**
| **Metric** | Maextro S800 (2025) | Tesla Model S (Long Range / Plaid, 2025) |
> - **Maextro’s CLTC range** is optimistic (China’s test cycle). Real-world highway range likely dips to **~350-400 miles**.
> - **Tesla’s EPA range** is stricter; real-world drops ~10% in mixed driving.
> - **Key Tradeoff**: Maextro uses a **giant 195 kWh battery** for range but sacrifices efficiency. Tesla achieves similar range with half the battery size.
- *Verdict*: Similar practical range, but Maextro needs **2x the battery** to achieve it.
2. **Charging**:
- Maextro’s **600 kW tech** is faster *on paper*, but Tesla’s **global network** is unbeatable.
- *Verdict*: Maextro wins on peak charging speed (where 600kW stations exist); Tesla wins everywhere else.
3. **Efficiency**:
- Tesla’s **4 mi/kWh** vs. Maextro’s **~2.5 mi/kWh** means **much higher operating costs** for the S800.
4. **Target Audience**:
- **Maextro S800**: Luxury buyers in China prioritizing comfort/status over efficiency.
- **Tesla Model S**: Tech-focused global buyers wanting performance + proven infrastructure.
For non-China buyers, the Maextro S800 remains impractical due to limited availability and charging support. The **Lucid Air (517 miles EPA)** or **Mercedes EQS (450 miles)** are closer alternatives to both.
*Always check third-party tests (e.g., Bjørn Nyland) once real-world Maextro S800 data becomes available.*
There are too many targeted people in the west Asia and Africa whose each and every communication is being monitored through Israeli spyware like Pegasus and Toka. How these software become deadly can be understood from the Arab beouin Kings and Emirs signing the Abraham Accords - which is willful conversion into Talmudic Judaism and accepting its disastrous eschatology which is what elites of states like UAE have done. Having lived among them in Dubai and Doha these bedouins have a sexual culture that beats Askenazi Jews. It is common for elite women in their 60s to openly take toy boy lovers in their early 20s. Open marriages like most Jewish marriages are the norm only that Bedouin swingers openly advertise on apps like Locanto that their orgies are only for whites and bedouins - so the small dicked Indian filth have to stay away. Then there is the unbelievably cruel JudeoGermanic culture of ritual satanic child abuse among the Bedouin elite and common class. Islam is like Judaism - it is an anything goes occult gnostic creed built around a world conquest political project. If foisting the one man world ruler called the Messiah is the objective of Judaism (including bolshevik and zionist judaism which are mutually supporting complementary religions, the foisting of the one world ruler called the Caliph is the objective of Sunni Islam. What faith or gnosis the people pursue is immaterial as long as they are loyal to these world govt projects. Rampant occultism thrives in Islam. While traveling through Oman we once took a 100 km detour for a 15 km distance because the Omani driver refused to go through a valley as it was inhabited by Muslims practicing Solomonic ritual human sacrifice. Three Satanist ritual human sacrifices took place in Kerala one of Indias 100% literate and progressive states with a Marxist state government after 2021 - the last of these just 5 months back. All three were committed by Muslim Salafi satanists. Salafi and Wahhabi Islam both have their origins in 2000 year old Arab Solomonic Templar (third temple) ritual Satanism. What I am coming to say is these bedouin elite with their Ishmaelite - edomite "wild ass" proclivities foist an austere punitive intellect stunting.Islam with multiple death cults in operation out there to reign in dissidents all over the world. Once these stupid bedouin elite including Mohammed Bin Salman and the notorious child molesting Luciferian Nahyans of Abu Dhabi bought the Pegasus Toka spyware all their beastiltiy and pedophilia now lie on servers Mossad servers in Tel Aviv. The Haaretz newspaper of Israel had reported that it was pegasus blackmail that forced these bedouins to sign the odious Abraham Accords which is buying into the Noahide Law totalitarian one world government under the messiah agenda of the Edom Judah royal families of the west and the Jews themselves. Now the Iranian elite to their utter stupidity were found using Iphones and Whatsapp which integrated with Palantir and Mossaic showed the Israelis where exactly in which room and which bed or sofa they were lying when they were killed. Palantir was used to micro target and kill most of the independent journalists in Gaza and a significant number of the doctors. To destroy the future of the Gazans Palantir was used to target children with families and the children themselves were eliminated. It is in this context that the Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro when he came to China said that he was using a Huawei phone which he called CIA-free. At that time Huawei ran the forked Android OS and it was certainly not CIA free. The current version of Harmony might be more CIA free. But there are practically a million targeted individuals out there in the world including independent journalists intellectuals and whistle blowers who the west constantly monitors electronically and has targeted for imprisonment, sanctions or outright murder. While talking to some of them the common refrain is that Huawei phones do not provide sufficient hardware security and they prefer Google Pixel phones with Graphene OS. The problem is that Graphene is built by a Canadian company and CIA and Mossad can coopt them at will and without resistance. Huawei's building the full stack from hardware to AI to chips to software is a watershed moment in human liberation from the palantir digital prison that the west and israel have created. In fact none of Apple Amazon Microsoft Google Facebook or Instagram are results of human ingenuity but they are the projects of one of the most evil organisations in the world - DARPA. It is all about data and the digital prison. Jeff Bezos grandfather was once the head of DARPA. DARPA typically outsources projects to universities and the Ivy League universities and the Russel Group universities of the UK whose purpose is not education but indoctrination are one world government military spy universities. These billionaires are not brilliant men or genuises - they belong to Nazi (like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel) or Zionist bloodlines (Like the Google and Facebook guys) and are given those companies to run on a platter simply because as Nazis and Zionists they are multigenerational luciferians misanthropes and psycopaths. I do not think Russia has the capability to build an independent tech stack. China's independent tech stack especially Huawei if it can harden its hardware security is literally a matter of life and death for millions if not billions of human beings.
Europe is the real pathetic evil twin - it misses its colonial glory days but has no hard power these days. it's not just riding on US coattail to rub off some "superiority", it is literally on its knees sucking Trump with a grateful smile on its ugly face personified by the low IQ Dutch Nazi Rutter.
Yes, this is true today, but the reason for WWII was that the German's aka Nazi Germany wanted a country run by them and not by jews. The term Nazi has been co-opted to mean something evil, which I believe that it was not. I guess I am a little touchy on the semantics of this issue.
I'll probably write if something interesting comes up. I share your sentiment the world would be a much better place if nations collaborate and work together to improve the lives of all rather than the division and hostility today. I think the ruling class in the west has a vested interest to set things up in a way that they can manipulate for their private gains. President Xi's idea of a common community for mankind is an aspiration future generations hopefully can move towards.
Good article. I had a Huawei-made Google Nexus phone years ago and it was great. Can't have a Huawei now here though.
It's not just tech and sanctions that the US uses to limit competition. In vehicles there's the notorious chicken tax to protect US-branded (mostly made in Mexico now) trucks, in the 1980s we hobbled the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers to protect failed Harley-Davison.
Today in HVAC we are having to use a new refrigerants again, because Honeywell's patents on R410 & R134 expired. Instead of using the Toshiba-invented, patent-free R32 refrigerant that is more efficient and environmentally better (which the rest of the world uses), we in the USA are forced to use a Honeywell-patented blend of royalty-free R32 with a bit of Honeywell R1234 thrown in JUST so that Honeywell can get royalties.
American normies think capitalism=free markets, but in practice American markets are less "free" than even "communist" China. It's all so tiresome; all we can do is laugh, lest we despair.
the US today is a classic rentier economy controlled by monoplistic big businesses and financial oligarchs. Prof Michael Hudson has the best analysis
I know. I've got the MBA and big-corp strategy experience to have seen how the sausage is made. My fellow Americans won't listen until the country collapses, just as companies never listened until they went bankrupt. I'm done fighting for people--let them eat bugs.
Hudson will never get his message across more widely, because he pushes his own ism/ology instead of just stating facts.
Yet another case where the Western sanctions have the complete opposite effect of what was intended and expected. The other 2 cases that spring to mind immediately are Russia and Iran, where domestic industries and new international relationships are flourishing.
In effect, these 3 countries should be grateful for having been sanctioned as it has forced them to think out of the box and completely reduce their slave-like dependence on the West.
I would clarify your last point. the three countries are the only ones without slave like dependencies on the hegemon. Europe and US vassals in Asia and middle east are the slaves.
I fully agree, I thought that goes without saying. Nevertheless, thanks for that addition because it takes away the assumption I made 😀
Wonderful write-up, Hua, thank you again.
America will rue the day when it chose to "become great again". As in AI data center network computing, collaboration and working together is the key to success when it comes to growing our economy for the betterment of us "people". As an American I feel more and more left out of global humanity, as our self-centered nation isolates itself and devolves into deep fascism in every aspect.
By the way, are you intending to write up the "Summer Davos" conference in Tianjin? Just saw a short piece on it in CNBC. Looks interesting.
I'll probably write if something interesting comes up. I share your sentiment the world would be a much better place if nations collaborate and work together to improve the lives of all rather than the division and hostility today. I think the ruling class in the west has a vested interest to set things up in a way that they can manipulate for their private gains. President Xi's idea of a common community for mankind is an aspiration future generations hopefully can move towards.
India is a pre-modern society, billionaires or not. it will not be a major power.
unfortunately Bernie is more words than action, like his Dem compatriots
I did a "DeepSeek" search on this article, at first DeepSeek said Maextro S800 did not exist, but then it did. However, it was not a favoring stance on the EV.
You're absolutely right to point that out—my apologies. Based on the **November 2024 Carscoops article** and subsequent updates, the **Maextro S800** is a **real luxury electric sedan** developed by **Huawei and JAC Motors** (officially launched in China as of May 2025). It's positioned as a rival to the Mercedes-Maybach EQS.
Here’s an updated, fact-based comparison of **Maextro S800** vs. **Tesla Model S** (Elon Musk’s flagship sedan), focusing on range, charging, and real-world performance:
---
### **1. Range on Full Charge**
| **Metric** | Maextro S800 (2025) | Tesla Model S (Long Range / Plaid, 2025) |
|---------------------|----------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------|
| **Official Claim** | **800 km (497 miles)** (CLTC cycle) | **652 km (405 miles)** (EPA, Long Range) |
| **Real-World Est.** | ~560-640 km (350-400 miles)* | ~550-600 km (340-375 miles)** |
| **Battery Capacity**| **195 kWh** (massive!) | **100 kWh** (Long Range) |
| **Efficiency** | ~2.5 mi/kWh (estimated) | **4.0 mi/kWh** (industry-leading) |
> ***Notes**:
> - **Maextro’s CLTC range** is optimistic (China’s test cycle). Real-world highway range likely dips to **~350-400 miles**.
> - **Tesla’s EPA range** is stricter; real-world drops ~10% in mixed driving.
> - **Key Tradeoff**: Maextro uses a **giant 195 kWh battery** for range but sacrifices efficiency. Tesla achieves similar range with half the battery size.
---
### **2. Charging Speed & Time**
| **Metric** | Maextro S800 | Tesla Model S |
|---------------------------|---------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|
| **Max Charging Rate** | **600 kW** (800V architecture) | **250 kW** (400V architecture) |
| **10-80% Charge Time** | **~15 mins*** (claimed) | **~20-25 mins** (Supercharger V3/V4) |
| **Miles Added in 15 mins**| **~250 miles** (est. at peak rate) | **~200 miles** (verified) |
| **Charging Network** | Huawei’s 600 kW stations (China-only) | **50,000+ global Superchargers** |
> ***Notes**:
> - Maextro’s **600 kW peak rate** is theoretical; sustained speeds may be lower.
> - Tesla’s network is vastly more accessible outside China.
---
### **3. Performance & Endurance**
| **Metric** | Maextro S800 | Tesla Model S Plaid |
|----------------------|----------------------------------|-----------------------------------|
| **0-60 mph** | 3.9 seconds | **1.99 seconds** |
| **Top Speed** | 200 km/h (124 mph) | **200 mph (322 km/h)** |
| **Driving Modes** | Focus on comfort ("Maybach-style")| Sport/Track modes |
| **Battery Longevity**| Unknown (new model) | **70% retention after 200k miles** (verified) |
---
### **Key Takeaways**
1. **Range**:
- **Maextro S800** claims **497 miles** (CLTC) but real-world likely **~380 miles**.
- **Tesla Model S** delivers **verified 405 miles** (EPA), real-world **~360 miles**.
- *Verdict*: Similar practical range, but Maextro needs **2x the battery** to achieve it.
2. **Charging**:
- Maextro’s **600 kW tech** is faster *on paper*, but Tesla’s **global network** is unbeatable.
- *Verdict*: Maextro wins on peak charging speed (where 600kW stations exist); Tesla wins everywhere else.
3. **Efficiency**:
- Tesla’s **4 mi/kWh** vs. Maextro’s **~2.5 mi/kWh** means **much higher operating costs** for the S800.
4. **Target Audience**:
- **Maextro S800**: Luxury buyers in China prioritizing comfort/status over efficiency.
- **Tesla Model S**: Tech-focused global buyers wanting performance + proven infrastructure.
For non-China buyers, the Maextro S800 remains impractical due to limited availability and charging support. The **Lucid Air (517 miles EPA)** or **Mercedes EQS (450 miles)** are closer alternatives to both.
*Always check third-party tests (e.g., Bjørn Nyland) once real-world Maextro S800 data becomes available.*
it's available starting today in Chinese dealerships
There are too many targeted people in the west Asia and Africa whose each and every communication is being monitored through Israeli spyware like Pegasus and Toka. How these software become deadly can be understood from the Arab beouin Kings and Emirs signing the Abraham Accords - which is willful conversion into Talmudic Judaism and accepting its disastrous eschatology which is what elites of states like UAE have done. Having lived among them in Dubai and Doha these bedouins have a sexual culture that beats Askenazi Jews. It is common for elite women in their 60s to openly take toy boy lovers in their early 20s. Open marriages like most Jewish marriages are the norm only that Bedouin swingers openly advertise on apps like Locanto that their orgies are only for whites and bedouins - so the small dicked Indian filth have to stay away. Then there is the unbelievably cruel JudeoGermanic culture of ritual satanic child abuse among the Bedouin elite and common class. Islam is like Judaism - it is an anything goes occult gnostic creed built around a world conquest political project. If foisting the one man world ruler called the Messiah is the objective of Judaism (including bolshevik and zionist judaism which are mutually supporting complementary religions, the foisting of the one world ruler called the Caliph is the objective of Sunni Islam. What faith or gnosis the people pursue is immaterial as long as they are loyal to these world govt projects. Rampant occultism thrives in Islam. While traveling through Oman we once took a 100 km detour for a 15 km distance because the Omani driver refused to go through a valley as it was inhabited by Muslims practicing Solomonic ritual human sacrifice. Three Satanist ritual human sacrifices took place in Kerala one of Indias 100% literate and progressive states with a Marxist state government after 2021 - the last of these just 5 months back. All three were committed by Muslim Salafi satanists. Salafi and Wahhabi Islam both have their origins in 2000 year old Arab Solomonic Templar (third temple) ritual Satanism. What I am coming to say is these bedouin elite with their Ishmaelite - edomite "wild ass" proclivities foist an austere punitive intellect stunting.Islam with multiple death cults in operation out there to reign in dissidents all over the world. Once these stupid bedouin elite including Mohammed Bin Salman and the notorious child molesting Luciferian Nahyans of Abu Dhabi bought the Pegasus Toka spyware all their beastiltiy and pedophilia now lie on servers Mossad servers in Tel Aviv. The Haaretz newspaper of Israel had reported that it was pegasus blackmail that forced these bedouins to sign the odious Abraham Accords which is buying into the Noahide Law totalitarian one world government under the messiah agenda of the Edom Judah royal families of the west and the Jews themselves. Now the Iranian elite to their utter stupidity were found using Iphones and Whatsapp which integrated with Palantir and Mossaic showed the Israelis where exactly in which room and which bed or sofa they were lying when they were killed. Palantir was used to micro target and kill most of the independent journalists in Gaza and a significant number of the doctors. To destroy the future of the Gazans Palantir was used to target children with families and the children themselves were eliminated. It is in this context that the Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro when he came to China said that he was using a Huawei phone which he called CIA-free. At that time Huawei ran the forked Android OS and it was certainly not CIA free. The current version of Harmony might be more CIA free. But there are practically a million targeted individuals out there in the world including independent journalists intellectuals and whistle blowers who the west constantly monitors electronically and has targeted for imprisonment, sanctions or outright murder. While talking to some of them the common refrain is that Huawei phones do not provide sufficient hardware security and they prefer Google Pixel phones with Graphene OS. The problem is that Graphene is built by a Canadian company and CIA and Mossad can coopt them at will and without resistance. Huawei's building the full stack from hardware to AI to chips to software is a watershed moment in human liberation from the palantir digital prison that the west and israel have created. In fact none of Apple Amazon Microsoft Google Facebook or Instagram are results of human ingenuity but they are the projects of one of the most evil organisations in the world - DARPA. It is all about data and the digital prison. Jeff Bezos grandfather was once the head of DARPA. DARPA typically outsources projects to universities and the Ivy League universities and the Russel Group universities of the UK whose purpose is not education but indoctrination are one world government military spy universities. These billionaires are not brilliant men or genuises - they belong to Nazi (like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel) or Zionist bloodlines (Like the Google and Facebook guys) and are given those companies to run on a platter simply because as Nazis and Zionists they are multigenerational luciferians misanthropes and psycopaths. I do not think Russia has the capability to build an independent tech stack. China's independent tech stack especially Huawei if it can harden its hardware security is literally a matter of life and death for millions if not billions of human beings.
You need to update your knowledge, the "Nazi's". They were the "good guys" other than that I think you are likely spot on everything else you said...
I use to think that also but recent events in Europe has shown that is not the case. At best the just the other side of the evil two headed coin.
Europe is the real pathetic evil twin - it misses its colonial glory days but has no hard power these days. it's not just riding on US coattail to rub off some "superiority", it is literally on its knees sucking Trump with a grateful smile on its ugly face personified by the low IQ Dutch Nazi Rutter.
Yes, this is true today, but the reason for WWII was that the German's aka Nazi Germany wanted a country run by them and not by jews. The term Nazi has been co-opted to mean something evil, which I believe that it was not. I guess I am a little touchy on the semantics of this issue.
I actually would like one of China's phones, better than anything we've got and more secure, as you have stated.
the Iranians are probably sorry they didn't get Huawei phones instead of Apple and Samsung
The best single analysis of today’s Huawei to be found anywhere. Thanks and keep them coming!
trudeau overstepped his authority when he went personal against huawai ... lets hope the "west" will play nice from now on ... lets hope that is :-)